Basically, they are a money vacuum, and I got screwed twice. I felt played by them, despite their initial eagerness to engage. On the design/build for the upstairs remodel, they started approximately February 2012 with my initial budget of $250K-$280K to put a second story of about 1500 sq ft on top of my existing house in the West Hills. In that time, I received 4 sets of drawings, each with very little change - and in fact, the last set regressed many of the changes we had talked about and was apparently re-based on the initial set of drawings. Several of the changes at the end were actually counter to what we had requested, which was further aggravating. I also asked repeatedly for sub-totals on my expenses, since Primo had originally set the expectation that I would half of the design services applied to my build costs if I went with them as the builder after the architect/design phase. I had originally put down $5K and expected that they would tell me how fast they were going through that. Since there didn't seem to be much activity, and many of our meetings seemed to have very low productivity, I figured that they were just off to a slow start or multiplexing projects. <br /> Primo repeatedly assured me that they had a very large staff and the project would move very quickly once we got through design, so I was patient. A couple of months in, after repeated assurances that they had a very large staff, I suggested that the take on a design/build of a small bathroom - 4'4 x 7' 3.5". We were close to finalizing the simple plans before I headed off for a month in Europe, so I put down $20K on that, said to email me the final costs/materials/plans, and I'd be able to approve while I was traveling. The bathroom estimate came in at ~$37K and in shock, I told them to stop until I returned. I tried to work with them to get a cost breakout to understand, which took a while to get; I then asked to use some sub-contractors I had used previously - whose work on a much larger project was much more cost effective. However, for reasons I never understood, those contractors when working with Primo, came up with quotes very similar to his teams' quotes. In frustration, I planned to order the materials (plumbing, tile, etc.) to try to reduce costs, however, that didn't turn out well overall, even using their discounts and picking up materials (they had a built in mark up, like most contractors do, and the materials turned out to be single sourced in many cases, and all much higher end than I had expected). Anyway, the bathroom project was completed fairly quickly, the workmanship was generally good. Some of the design aspects surprised me, and at least one major problem with a shower head which was initially mounted too close to the wall, and when moved out far enough to be useful now sprays water outside of the shower. Just moving the shower head was given to me at "half off" - and was still something like $600 (to extend a pipe about 8", redo a shower's ceiling dry wall for a mistake that I still believe is completely their fault). <br /> Anyway, apparently there was no real progress on the 2nd story remodel during this time, although there were design bills. And, in fact, within two months of finishing the bathroom and settling that cost, I received another $8,000 charge for design, with no detail behind it, other than "making my bill current". About the same time, they showed me the same rough plans for a >$750K remodel (remember, my walk out ranch of about 2500 sq ft and property are about $550K, and this was a ~1500 sq ft addition with 2 bare bedrooms, a simple guest bathroom, a great room space, and a master bed/bath/closet. When they presented me with the budget (with no real line items) I thought it was just a joke, and not a very good one. In discussing it with them, it sounded like they rounded everything up to the "high end" to be safe, so I asked for details, which seemed to be a major effort for them. I thought they were just including some crazy things that would be easy to cut out and bring the price back down to my budget. They brought that same budget back to me for each of the next two months, with no change in pricing, and clearly at a level that I told them repeatedly was completely beyond my budget (and never would I have paid so much anyway - my housing market would not have been able to bear that level of additional cost and I would not have been able to recoup that investment, ever). At that point, I demanded a summary and asked how close they were to "finished' <br /> That's when I learned that they believed they were only 30% done with the design, and the design would cost somewhere between $75K-$115k, since the project was likely to be about $750K. I was honestly shocked and didn't know how to react for a good while. At that point, I knew I had to terminate the relationship because I was just getting pulled deeper and deeper into a delusional view of what they thought I could afford, what they thought could be done with my house, and realized that I was stupid to have entertained their optimism for so long. <br /> I would recommend never, ever using them for a large project - I hadn't realized it at the beginning, but most of their projects were very small when I looked at their history. They clearly have no real knowledge or significant experience with larger projects and are completely out of tough with the remodeling market. <br />